7:27:00 PM

Large Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Ohio, Ontario Canada Meteor Fireball 04OCT2011

Email From:
Karen S.-Novi, MI:
Tonight (October 4 2011)  around 8 pm we heard a boom, I went to sit outside and about 8:10 pm  I witnessed the most beautiful bright green and orange long streaking fireball shoot across the sky in the city of Novi, MI. I was in such awe to see such a beautiful thing, wondering if this was a meteor or what, it reminded me of a very brightly lit bottle rocket shooting across the sky, but there was no noise. Do you know what this was? I really would like to know if what I witnessed was indeed a meteor.

From T.J.-Bryan, OH:
On 10/04/2011  I was traveling east on state route 6 in Bryan O.H. And saw a green flash with like a red end to the green trail it only lasted a few seconds and vanished it was on the northern side of the Highway.

Kevin K.-Kitchener Ontario, Canada:
I was driving "North" along Hwy. 85 near Bridgeport Road exit and saw a very bright, long lasting meteor losing altitude, moving from West to North, in North West horizon over Kitchener/Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. Light seemed to have terminated close to horizon. No other radio or internet reports seen or heard as of yet.
Hope this is useful.
Kevin

Roman V.-Embro Ontario, Canada:
Hi there, at approximately 7:58 pm tonight driving westbound on the 401 in SW Ontario Canada between Kitchener and Woodstock (aprox 5-6KM east of exit 250) I spotted a huge green ball to the west travelling from the south west in a northerly direction however it appeared to be losing altitude quite quick as well as fragmenting before it disappeared behind the tree line of the horizon.
I live 10miles west/Nwest of Woodstock and still being at least 20-25 minutes from home I thought it possible it may have traveled almost over my house.
More than likely it was closer to Lake Huron but no way to tell either way.
Hope this helps.
Cheers, Roman

Jill D.-Novi, MI:
At approximately 8:30pm October 4, 2011 I saw what looked like a comet or a meteor with a fiery long tail. It was moving pretty quickly and I was only able to see it for a few seconds. I am in Novi, MI and I am so curious if anyone else has seen it and if so, can u tell me what we saw!!

J.L.-Windsor Ontario, Canada:
I am located in Windsor Ontario Canada , right across the river from Detroit Michigan  ,Was watching tv  OCT 4 2011 about 8 pm  when I noted a glow from the front window which faces west. I have seen many shooting stars before & this appeared to much larger than anything I have seen , It was coming down at 45 degree angle & slower than the usual shooting star , was visible for 10 seconds or so before it went behind trees.  It looked large & very bright green there seemed to be a white halo around the edge & it was trailing white sparks , it broke into 2 pieces  both trailing white sparks. Fom my position it appeared to be heading west northwest  It was bright enough & large enough that I wonder if it impacted , surely someone saw it....

Cheryl M.-South Haven, MI:
I saw the fireball this evening (October 4, 2011) at around 8:05 pm EST.  I am in South Haven, Michigan along the Lake Michigan shoreline.  I was facing East and saw it move from upper right to lower left in the sky.  Upper left to lower right.  As it moved across the sky it moved downward.  It happened so fast but long enough to be in awe.  I questioned what I say and thought fireworks but there was no sound.    I did not hear a boom before the seeing the light.  We had just come outside 5 minutes earlier.  My biggest impression was the size of the white light ball that than streaked.  I told my son that I thought I saw green too at the time but now that a few hours have passed I'm not remembering exact details regarding the color.  Grateful to have witnessed it!  We had just come outside to check out the moon.  What an unexpected sky treat!
Thanks, Cheryl

Marc P.-South Central MI:
This evening shortly before 8p EDT, I witnessed a greenish/yellow streak like a comet in the western sky as I faced southwest in lower-mid Michigan.  It lasted for 6-8 seconds before it dissipated behind a 60' tree I was under.  It moved much slower than the usual shooting stars that I've seen and its trail was 5-7 tea the size of the moon at that time.  It was quite brilliant.  I'm quite fascinated to learn about other eyewitness accounts.  Is this an early part of the NASA predicted show of October 8??


B. Mulligan-Ontario, Canada:
Date: October 4th, 2011 Time: 8:11 EST Location: North Pelham, Ontario, Canada My wife and I were returning from an early movie and dinner and were almost home, driving due west down the road to our house. In the black sky ahead a white light suddenly appeared, much like the light on an airplane as it approaches you. It started at about 30 degrees above the horizon and descended quickly to earth at about a 45 degree angle. From our location it looked to descend from south to north. We could only see it for about one second and it disappeared behind the treeline which was fairly close. My wife and I both remarked on it; we had not seen anything quite like it before. When we arrived home I phoned the police thinking the light was indeed on an airplane that might have crashed within a few miles of us. They told me at the time they had received no other calls other than mine. I'm glad I found this site....now I can finally sleep! - BM

 
Jerry G.-NW OH:

I was sitting on my front porch in NW Ohio outside of Elmore when I saw a meteor coming straight down NNW of my location. It developed a tail and lasted for a couple of seconds before it went behind the trees. I live in a woods so I missed a fair amount of the view as it descended closer to the ground. I looked at my watch after I saw it and it was 8:05 PM. I did not hear anything.

Cherie B.-Livonia, MI:
I stepped out onto my patio last night and was facing west when I saw a bright light desending.  I thought it was a plane at first, but was much brighter.  Then it fragmented into 2 pieces and trailed for another couple seconds and then seemed to burn out.  I was looking for news reports this morning, and this was the only site that had any information about the sighting.  It was about 1/8 of the brightness of the moon and I didn't hear any sound.  I was curious if it was a meteor or maybe one of our many satellites up there. 

Charles N.-London, Ontario Canada:
Consistent with other folks, I saw the same thing.  I have never seen anything so large moving so slowly across the night sky.  It lasted at least 5 full seconds and was moving south to north and was visible as I approached due west.  The colour was more blue than green... blue on the top, greenish in the middle and bright white on the bottom.  As it passed the horizon to the north I waited to hear the 'boom'... not sure if this was a plane or a large firework.
Immediately after, on the radio in London (FM96) many folks called in and reported the same.  Very cool.


Benjamin G.-Cleveland, OH:
peace,
I live in Cleveland, Ohio. It was approximately 7:45. I was driving westbound, and it was so HUGE it caught my eye instantly. It seemed to start as a big ball and then the streak followed behind it. It burned up in a bright greenish-blue color. It seemed to be moving West to North as it fell out of the sky. I was in my car, so I didn't hear anything at the time.
Matt P.-Rochester Hills, MI 8:05pm:
Driving home tonight I saw a streaking white light travelong west to east.  It looked like a firework shooting through the shy. It lasted several seconds then burst into several pieces.  There was a plane flying by right above it. Very strange!!
Appears I am not the only one to see it.
Michelle B.-Windsor Ontario, Canada:
Did I really see this!? Amazing!! Talking to my friend after work in the parking lot in Windsor Ontario about 8:05 or so and was distracted by a light out of the corner of my eye. I looked and pointed and asked if she had seen that. She thought it was a falling star but I told her no way, it was like a ball of flames. I told my boyfriend (who thought I was losing it) and when I woke up someone had posted this link on 0facebook! What a once in a lifetime opportunity!! So cool! How often are these seen???
Thanks for letting me relive my encounter!!
Michelle
Lisa B.-Lake Michigan "Thumb":
My sister and I were on our way home from grocery shopping near the "thumb" area of Michigan and seen the fireball. It was lower in the horizon than anything I have ever witnessed. It was traveling from the east/southeast to west/northwest. Broke into two pieces before completely burning out. Never seen anything like it before. Glad to know others also witnessed it!
Lisa J. B
Eric C.-Farmington Hills, MI:
I was standing in a parking lot last night about 8pm and a friend and I witnessed the downward streaking fireball. It was very bright and multi-colored.
We were in Farmington Hills, Michigan near the intersection of Grand River Avenue and 10 Mile Road.  The fireball was to the Northwest of us (over Milford, MI)
It seemed very close...to the point where my friend thought it was a bullet (he has seen many in his home country).  I found your website after a Google search in looking for what the streak could have been.
Best Regards,
Eric M. C
Kelcie S.-Auburn, MI:
On October 4, 2011 at about 8pm EST, I was traveling west on US-10 near Auburn, MI, and I saw a greenish-orange tail of what I assume was a meteorite to the south. It appeared to be split in two and was only visible for a few seconds. It was a little less than 45 degrees above the horizon. It moved slightly north of west and was about a third the brightness of the moon last night. Hope this observation helps! I am a bit farther north than many of your previous comments. Please let me know if you desire any further information.
Thank you!
Julie F.-West Bloomfield, MI:
Last night my daughter, my neighbor, and myself saw what looked like a meteor or shooting star travel from the east to the west shortly after 8 p.m.  We were in Clawson, Rochester, and West Bloomfield, Michigan, in the Southeastern part of the State.  It was a stunning “sign in the heavens” for us, as all three of us had just spoken to God in prayer,
Jan B.-Belle River Ontario, Canada:
Large Fireball coming from south east spotted from Belle River Ontario, lasted for few seconds, before separated into at least 3 pieces and disappeared (burned) .
Amanda W.-Novi, MI USA 
A co- worker and I were leaving work at a location near the NE corner of 10 Mile & Beck in Novi, MI  at around 8/8:10 pm.  Altho I heard no sonic boom, it was my co-worker who noticed it first.  I turned to face West to just catch the tail end of a yellow – white stream in the sky before it dropped bel;ow a tree line & was no longer in sight.  Was traveling from W/NW direction (upper left to lower Right) .  My co-worker thought it was a shooting star as she has never witnessed one before J
Scott W.-Berkley, MI:
On the evening of 10/04/11 I was leaving the house around 8:05 pm in Berkley Michigan when I saw a large orange/yellow fireball in the western sky.  It had a long tail that quickly fizzled out as it appeared to fall from the sky going from what seemed the south east to north west.  It was a clear beautiful night and it was clearly visible for several seconds and was completely silent.  Not sure if it was a comet or a meteor.
Steve P.-Ypsilanti, MI
I also witnessed said meteor from Ypsilanti, MI. It was by far the largest and most impressive one I have ever seen; it appeared to be extremely close and moving straight down in the west northwestern sky before splitting into two pieces one that moved off slightly to the north and the other slightly to the south. Awesome!
Lisey S.-Unknown Location:
At around 8:00p.m saw what looked to be a meteorite in the western sky, travelling in a northerly descending direction. The projectile split into two, before burning out, and must have crashed somewhere near by. Shortly after, i heard a car alarm go off in which i assumed was hit by the fireball. (lol)
Dianne G.-Ontario, Canada:
On October 4, 2011 at approximately 8:10 pm, I was travelling west on Snyder’s Road between Petersburg and Baden (near Waterloo ON) and saw two very bright white lights in the western sky travelling in tandem at about a 45 degree angle towards the horizon.  They were visible for about 4-5 seconds before they faded.  Like another witness reported, I was concerned it was a plane going down until the lights quickly faded in the dark sky and I realized what I had seen was actually a fragmented meteorite.

Sue B.-Trenton, MI:
I was driving west on Vreeland Road toward Fort Street about 8:05 pm on the evening of October 4, 2011.  I was on the phone with my daughter who was in Monroe, Michigan at the time.  I saw the fireball/meteor and didn’t know what it was.  It seemed so low.  It was about 1/2 the size of a full moon, maybe a little smaller, but very large for a shooting star.  When I first saw it, I said, “Oh my God”.  My daughter said the same thing at the same time.  Then she said, “Shooting Star”.  I asked, “Did you see that too?”  Monroe is about 30 miles south of Trenton and we saw the same thing at the same time.  We couldn’t believe we both seen it at the exact same time.  It was like a large fireball...it only lasted a couple of seconds from when I seen it. It was travelling north west, pretty low in the sky.  It appeared to have broken in two, then it disappeared.  It was yellowish with a bluish/greenish tint around it.  Hard to remember now.  I listened to the news this morning but heard nothing about it.  I then searched the internet for information on it and found this site.  Very, very amazing.  I’ve never seen anything like it before.  Crazy!

Kathleen S.-Cincinnati, OH:
Hello...I'm writing in regards to the fireball/meteor I witnessed on October 4, 2011
I live in Cincinnati, Ohio and was traveling westbound on US 52 (along the Ohio River).  I witnessed a huge fireball/meteor that appeared to my North and was traveline in a west/ possible SW direction, hard to say exactly as US 52 curves along the river so I'm not sure if I was traveline due west or possible north at that particular section of the highway.  It was the largest meteor/fireball I had ever witnessed and lasted for a long time.  I was able to tell my daughter, "look at that shooting star" and she had time to look up from the back seat and witness it before it disappeared.  It definitely had me curious because I immediately went home and searched the local news stations and googled meteor showers. Thanks

Brian M.-Grayslake, IL:
On 10/04/2011 at approximately 7pm CST my wife and I were travelling Eastbound on Center Street (Cty A27) at Route 45 in Grayslake IL (60030) when we saw a blue/green fireball with a long trail descending at high speed.  I first noticed it at around 60 degrees above the horizon, almost straight east, and moving towards the horizon in a northeasterly direction.  It appeared to split into two pieces at about 40 degrees above horizon, with the smaller piece appearing to break off to the right from my perspective.  It then disappeared from my sight about 20 degrees above the horizon, just above the treeline from my perspective. We were located about 10 miles straight west from the western shore of Lake Michigan, almost equidistant between the heart of Milwaukee WI and Chicago IL.
I too thought it might be a fast moving plane that was crashing relatively nearby.  Really glad it wasn't!
Thanks for the great site!

Deanna C.-Columbus, OH:
I was traveling North on St. Rt. 315 North of Columbus, OH, facing the suburb of Delaware, OH, a few minutes after 8:00 p.m. on 10/4/11.  I saw a bright green light appearing to travel directly straight down from the sky toward the road in front of me.  Impossible to tell how far away, but it was very large.  I had thought it had to hit somewhere in Delaware, OH simply due to its size, but looking over these posts and the locations, I may be very mistaken.  Beautiful indeed, but I was pretty sure I was crazy.  :)

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3:15:00 AM

BREAKING METEOR FIREBALL NEWS...Major Virginia, Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey Meteor Fireball 04OCT2011...Sonic Booms Reported

UPDATE !! FIRST IMAGES OBTAINED BY ELPALLSKY: 
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Images Above Courtesy and (c) 2011 Ken Christison-click image to enlarge
Hi Jim,
Attached are a couple images. First is the stacked image, consisting of 197
30 second frames. This image has been photoshopped a bit, by cloning
out some distracting automobile light trails on the road in front of our house
in a couple frames. The second one is the frame that contains the trail of
the meteor. It occurred at 4:24 AM eastern time. I was very fortunate in
that the battery in the camera went dead 2 frames after the meteor.
These were shot with a Nikon D300 with a 12-24mm Tokina wide angle lens.
I live near Conway, NC which is near the VA border and about 25 miles east
of I-95. Hope you find the images interesting.   THANK YOU KEN !!

Photo Analysis From Bill Cooke-NASA-MSFC-MEO-Huntsville, AL

From the non-star trail image, I was able to get a crude astrometric fit and obtained the following for the meteor:

time: Oct 4, 2011 4:24 EDT
Start Az, El: 331.8, 10.9
Flare Az, El: 342.0, 4.4
Last Az, El: 344.4, 2.9

Assumed location: Conway, NC (36 deg 26' N, 77 deg 13.5' W)

Regards,
Bill

Doppler Radar Analysis: Dr. Marc Fries
[10/4/2011 11:14:10 PM] Marc Fries: radar hit shows up on Dulles NEXRAD radar, altitude is 18,000', location is 39.437473  -78.643898 comes complete with Doppler velocity anomaly
moving 41 kts away from the radar; a strong local turbulence signature:

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image (c) 2011 ELPALLSKY-Google Earth  click image to enlarge


REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL EYEWITNESS REPORTS...
Allegany Radio Corporation
Magic 100.5 Cumberland, MD:  According to Allegany County 9-1-1 officials at about 4:30 this morning folks throughout Western Maryland awoke to a sonic boom created by a meteorite that moved through the area. 12 calls were made to Allegany County 9-1-1 beginning at about 4:22 am from Frostburg to Oldtown. Callers reported hearing a loud boom and seeing a blue or green light flashing through the sky. County 9-1-1 officials from around West Virginia claimed they received calls about feeling the sonic boom from Carpendale, Capn Bridge and Wardensville. Early reports are that the meteorite may have allegedly crashed somewhere in Virginia. But Virginia Emergency Management officials say they have had no meteorite reports. NASA officials have been unable to confirm the reports at this point.

Email From:
Tracey-Southeast PA:
I was driving at 4:20 this morning in Montgomery County PA and saw it!!!! I cant believe what I saw, but a bright red tail with a bright blue/green body sailing towards the Earth! I thought it was aiming at my house but raced home to find nothing...thank God! What is it!? I have been seeing so much crazy stuff/signs lately! This one takes the cake! WOW!
Tracy

Sandra K.-Newport News, VA:
I witnessed a fireball/meteor this morning at appx 0422 am while driving north on I664 in Newport News, VA.  It was the largest meteor I have ever seen and must have been close.  It was traveling east and was bright blue/green and flashed brightly as it appeared to hit the atmosphere.


Keri M.-Gainsville, VA:
At 4:25am this morning (October 4, 2011) I was facing northwest, I believe and saw a fireball going from west to east about the size of a soccer ball.  It had a tail of fire that was red and yellow and it sizzled. It was bright like a firework going off. The sizzling got louder then it disappeared.


C. Price-Sterling, VA:
Near sterling virginia, 4:25AM oct. 4 2011 i saw a huge green ball growing in size and brightness with a short fire colored tail of sparks.  It looked larger than the moon and then disappeared from view behind a biulding and then   the sky lit up with 5 green flashes.  It must have exploded, but i heard no sound.

Amanda M.-Cumberland, MD:
I saw your post apparently it was seen all over western Maryland as well


Winnie Z.-Germantown, MD:
I was out walking the dog at 4:10-20 a.m. in Montgomery county Md. On 10/04/2011. Saw a fireball with bright white and blue trailing , going from east to west….lower than a shooting star or meteor showers that I have seen !! Wow ! My husband was walking and saw the same thing. We live at: (address on file) Germantown , Md.

Rick M.-Loudoun Co, VA:
I was facing West while jogging in Loudoun County, VA.  Object moved left to right.  Blue/green/white body with light Orange to red tail.  Much bigger than the biggest star, maybe 1/4 the size of a full moon.  No sound, and it appeared to originate in the sky.  Rick M

Bill H.-South Anne Arundel County MD:
I saw a bright(extremely) flash in the sky this morning at aproxx 4:20 while walking my dog. I was in South Anne Arundel County Maryland facing WNW when this a ocurred.After the the bright flash(it lit the west river up like it was daylight) I saw a meteor arcing towards the north like it was coming down on the eastern shore of maryland. Thats the best I can describe it..................Bill

C. Pew-Salem, NJ:
I was travelling southbound in a car around 4:20 a.m. and saw a green fireball quickly falling from the sky and appeared to be going east to west. Originally thought it might have been some sort of flare or firework, but as it got closer to the ground started throwing off orange sparks just before it went below the horizon. Coolest thing I have ever seen.

Stewart W.-Colleen, VA:
Yes, my wife and I witnessed the fireball, this morning, 04 October 2011.
We were driving north on U.S. Rt 29, in Nelson County VA (near Colleen VA).  The time was
approximately 4:20 a.m.  My wife spotted the meteor, as it traveled in a southwest to northeast direction.  As I was driving, it was in a roughly at an 11:00 position to me, when spotted. I would have to guess,  that from when we spotted the meteor, until it ended, it may have covered an 80 degree arc through the sky.  It was visible for approximately 8 seconds.
When I spotted the meteor, it lit up the WHOLE northern night sky!  Even lower level cloud cover. It had a tail wider than a jet contrail.  Much wider than the International Space Station flyovers, that I've watched.  The tail looked liked smoke trailing behind it, it was so broad.
After watching the meteor for about 5 seconds, the fireball started skipping in and out of the atmosphere. It skipped I believe 3 times, with red sparks and bright flashes, as it reentered the atmosphere each time. Other than the sparks, I couldn't describe the colors very well, since I am Red/Green color deficient. Sorry!
Hope this helps!
Charles W

Donald S.-Gettysburg, PA:
This morning leaving for work at about 4:20 AM, I saw a big flash of light that lasted about a second. It was like a lighting strike without sound. When I looked in the sky I saw what I thought was a meteor racing across the sky east to west. It seemed quite large compared to others I have seen. I just asumed it exploded when it hit our atmosphere. I live just west of Gettysburg PA. If you find out what it was, could you let me know?

Ken S.-On The Road In VA:
4:22 OCT 4 2011  As I was driving on 70 heading west towards Fredrick the sky got bright for about 3 to 5 seconds in that time I saw a blue ball with a tail crashing down. I have never seen anything like it in my life.

Fred C.-Aberdeen, MD:
At 4:23 AM I was operating a southbound freight train near Aberdeen MD. on Amtracks Northeast Corridor. I suddenly saw a bright flash that I thought was an arc from the overhead catenary wires. Looking up at the southern sky, I saw a very bright object moving east to west trailing blue/ green lights. It was the most brilliant meteor/shooting star I had ever seen. Couldn't believe its speed and intensity. Awesome!!
Fred

Randall J.-Frederick Co, MD:
At approximately 4:20AM I was riding in a vanpool van in Hwy 340 in Frederick county,MD, about 1 mile east of the Brunswick exit. Through the side window looking west I saw two bright flashes of light, the second one being somewhat dimmer. The light was above a low cloud deck but the clouds where well lit up by the flashes. My first impression was lightning but it was too cold for that. I then guessed it was a transformer explosion of some sort on South Mountain. It wasn't until I arrived at work and heard other people from all over the area witnessing a fireball.

Claudio D.-Truck Driver:
I was heading south on i-95 towards dc around 4:30ish when I saw a blue flash( brighter than lightning)  followed by a orange tail going from east to west and desapering in the horizon...the whole thing probably lasted about 3-4 seconds but it was real cool!!!!


Dave and Melody-New Holland, PA:
This morning around 4 15 am I was sitting in a parking lot in New Holland Pa facing ssw,the light/light flashes I saw were bright enough to see them in my peripheral vision. The light/light flashes I saw were due west of my position,they were just above the tree line and it first resembled sort of a strobing effect, two to three quick flashes. No sound was heard, David


I live in Northwet Ohio. At about 04:24 hrs was was heading home when a saw a bright flash and then a big green fireball with a tail in the eastern sky. I see most reports were from PA, MD area.  The ball of fire was so big I actually thought it was only a few counties away.
Ptl Ken F.-NW Ohio:
I live in Northwet Ohio. At about 04:24 hrs was was heading home when a saw a bright flash and then a big green fireball with a tail in the eastern sky. I see most reports were from PA, MD area.  The ball of fire was so big I actually thought it was only a few counties away. I was traveling to the east. The fire ball moved from the right to the left at about 2oclock in the sky. before I found this site I actually thought it was only a few counties away. Not sure but I think it was a flash the first got my attention. It happened and was moving so fast.

Jack B.-South Annville Township, Lebanon County, PA:Traveling to work south on state rt.322 west, just passingthe intersection with state rt. 934  seen a white/blue flash at thehorizon in the southwest/western sky. Was low on the horizon about tree level. Frommy vantage point I thought an accident might of occurred at three mile islandpower plant. I’ve seen transformer explosions before---looked like it mayhave been the same. I’m sure of the time because I had my satellite radio on and after seeing the flash, I checked the time.

From The ELPALLSKY Chatbox:

Oct 4 2011, 5:05 PM Guest6 (guest): 
I seen this "meteor" thing approximatly 4:25am I was facing North in my vehicle.It was bright green with a tail. it wen out of sight behind trees then we seen it flash a few times.
Oct 4 2011, 5:07 PM Guest6 (guest): 
I was in Leland NC on Lanvale Rd and my name is tiffany
  

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